tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post113883050648295136..comments2023-11-02T06:24:53.204-07:00Comments on Alecya G's Plastic Castle: all things considered I couldn't be betterAlecya Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03680200802683417322noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138905314421380142006-02-02T10:35:00.000-08:002006-02-02T10:35:00.000-08:00Sad. Horrified. Angry. Frustrated. Not terribly s...Sad. Horrified. Angry. Frustrated. Not terribly surprised.<BR/><BR/>The worst part for me: you and Beloved pretending to be roommates. Institutionalized hate and intolerance, but when it is internalized... That just breaks my heart.<BR/><BR/>One of the reasons I left for Britain when I did was because the Premier of my home province was threatening to veto the Supreme Court's ruling that sexual orientation must be included in the Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms: work, home, safety, etc. The good people of Alberta were horrified, overwhelmingly, at having to legally condone such immoral behaviour, to the extent that, for some time, it looked like homophobia would win over basic human rights. So I left. I don't care if you go home to a goat, you deserve a home. There is just no excuse to deny basic human rights to ANYONE based on ANYTHING. <BR/><BR/>Things like adoption and marriage are a different issue, but are really no less cut and dry. I posted once on not understanding the argument against same sex marriage - hello? why are we forbidding commitment and monogomy?<BR/><BR/>I'm a flaming liberal, mind you, so I'm perhaps not unbiased in this area. I happen to think opponents of same sex marriage (legal, not religious - churches should not be forced to perform same sex weddings) are idiots. I'd love to hear an argument against same sex relationships, however, that doesn't have to do with "immoral" or "the Bible says..." Equality, baby, trumps all.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for that, Alecya.Erikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936825052042921305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138896997250194492006-02-02T08:16:00.000-08:002006-02-02T08:16:00.000-08:00Mystic, Lord B, I can't tell you how refreshing it...Mystic, Lord B, I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear men say that [you, too, Adem]. <BR/><BR/>Around here, I get a lot of "well, if its women its okay if I watch, but men?"...and you can follow the rest of the conversation, I am sure. My city is actually fairly large. I mean, its not the biggest in my State, but its #3. <BR/><BR/>I think its nice that there are strait people out there that feel like its a cause worth fighting for.<BR/><BR/>Really, I don't feel like I deserve sympathy, as Mystic points out, in the 1950's it was much ahrder. I read a book called "Stone Butch Blues" that really opened my eyes to how good I have it. Its also sad, because in my community the gays are either wildly activist, and get nothing done for all of their political in-fighting, or they are completely apathetic. No one seems to know how to pull everyone together. And it seems like no one here votes. It makes me sad, we have such a powerful demographic, and no one thinks of how much difference we could make if we tried. <BR/><BR/>I want to move, but I have reasons for staying here. Most of them revolve around Beloved, because I am more than willing to cut the cord and move somehere better, but thats an issue that will likely change in time.<BR/><BR/>In case I haven't said so lately, I really love how wonderful and supportive all of you are.Alecya Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680200802683417322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138895886489547602006-02-02T07:58:00.000-08:002006-02-02T07:58:00.000-08:00I cannot believe in a supposedly advanced Western ...I cannot believe in a supposedly advanced Western country people can still go on like they are living in the 1950s. Madness.<BR/><BR/>It's odd how the larger the city, the more comfortable and tolerant people are. I'm not sure it would be that easy to be gay in my city to be honest. It's all a question of degree; you certainly wouldn't experience the kind of attitudes to the level you do, but also I don't imagine you'd feel comfortable kissing your gay partner on the streets of the city. If you were in London, as Foxy says, I doubt anyone would bat an eyelid.<BR/><BR/>It makes me really mad, actually. I'm with Mr Mystic, if there was one cause that I had to choose above all others to vociferously support, I think it would be this one.LBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06234702470107953581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138890872968855462006-02-02T06:34:00.000-08:002006-02-02T06:34:00.000-08:00I feel for you Alecya. If it's any consolation, j...I feel for you Alecya. If it's any consolation, just think back what it was like 50 years ago. Our narrow minded public has come a long way.<BR/><BR/>Have you thought of moving to a bigger city?<BR/><BR/>I live in a predominatly artist community and gay and straight alike cohabit the area without problems. As a matter of fact it has been this way for so long that I can't tell the difference between the straight or the gay. Nor do I care to.<BR/><BR/>I am a true advovcate of sex being your own personal business. What I do in the bedroom with my consenting partner is my own private right and that goes for everybody else.<BR/><BR/>I am not a violent man, but I would go to war to defend that belief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138869462338154892006-02-02T00:37:00.000-08:002006-02-02T00:37:00.000-08:00I can only imagine how difficult it must be, not b...I can only imagine how difficult it must be, not being allowed to be who you are and even having to consider your safety. My heart goes out to you and everyone who suffers for their sexual orientation. This is going to be a very long battle, I think, but it's one I hope we can win in the end. Equal rights are worth fighting for. But then, you knew that already. *G*Aravishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07766002202567429153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138857438083636132006-02-01T21:17:00.000-08:002006-02-01T21:17:00.000-08:00Spinny makes a good point. Beloved would never mov...Spinny makes a good point. Beloved would never move, and is so anti-PDA, it wouldn't make a smidge of diffrence. <BR/><BR/>And you are right, Spinny, I cannot adopt, I cannot get In Vitro as a single woman (with few exceptions) And if I have a child, Beloved cannot adopt it. And vise versa. I'd lose the children to protective custody anyway because I am a "sexual deviant" and expose my children to "high risk" behavior. <BR/><BR/>Also, if I were to move, I would have to pick out a coast, because there isnt much else for choice. <BR/><BR/>Adem, you're a doll for pointing out the obvious, I should be able to live where I like. Thanks. <BR/><BR/>For those interested, if I ever am in the position to move I will pick either a big city in the US [if Beloved moves with me] or somewhere overseas [if I am single]. I cant wait to get the hell out of here.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and Spinny - anyone who thinks you're a man is stupid. How could they miss it? *mutters* morons... You're a lovely lady. You really are.Alecya Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680200802683417322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138841248705632722006-02-01T16:47:00.000-08:002006-02-01T16:47:00.000-08:00Hey Foxy! I do agree with you a bit, but it's a m...Hey Foxy! I do agree with you a bit, but it's a matter of personal preference. I moved from my home town because I couldn't tolerate certain things about living there (the winter weather being a big factor, but there were others). The tradeoff that I made is that I left all of my established relationships....family, friends, pets. These are people I still care about and being away from them (and certain aspects of my hometown). Luckily, I've found a place I love, but you take a risk that the place you move won't be welcoming in other ways.HistoryGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02670515936852776370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138837076705995802006-02-01T15:37:00.000-08:002006-02-01T15:37:00.000-08:00Fox - The thing is that Alecya shouldn't have to b...Fox - The thing is that Alecya shouldn't have to be the one to change, to move, to be considered an equal and have the same rights as everyone else ,but the fact is that some places are more bigotted than others. I guess it's a very hard situation to be in, but that's all I can do, guess.<BR/><BR/>The world is changing, we've just got gay marriages passed here [termed civil partnerships] which is a great step forward, but it does take longer for the same to happen everywhere else, and in some places it'll never change.<BR/><BR/>Keep fighting though and use your anger for the best.<BR/><BR/>Latersademhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00370168900902377016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15111679.post-1138832802623341752006-02-01T14:26:00.000-08:002006-02-01T14:26:00.000-08:00I live in such a bubble sometimes. The Bay Area i...I live in such a bubble sometimes. The Bay Area isn't perfect, but it does have some definite advantages...including domestic partnership laws and anti-discrimination laws.<BR/><BR/>Some of the things that Alecya didn't add. If her partner were hospitalized, the hospital would not be allowed to give her information (unless Beloved were able to consent, i.e. was conscious, or had an advanced directive) about her because she is not an immediate relative. Beloved and she may or may not be able to adopt children in her state. Any child born to the one of them would have to be adopted by the other, or all sorts of parental rights (including the rights around medical care) could be denied.<BR/><BR/>I did want to say that I really loved the discussion of stereotypes. I think here there is much more of a butch/femme culture (and a definite trans culture), but I'm a femme who likes femme-y women. I've dressed to stereotype (of a queer girl) at times and been mistaken for a man (I know, people get a little shocked by that).HistoryGeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02670515936852776370noreply@blogger.com